Sunday, July 29, 2007

Anglicans for Life

Go give Anglicans for Life a look through and pray about becoming a member and supporting this very important cause that promotes life as humans created in the image of God. May God give his world a heart for the unborn and those for whom the secular world views as less valuable.


Anonymous john scholasticus said...


Sorry I didn't get back to you on your 'Sentamu/Scholasticus' challenge. I simply missed it. But here's a counter-challenge: on looking at your recent photo-gallery I can identify two individuals, both fervent Christians and fervent Anglicans, one a priest, one not, both of whom I know for a fact don't give a fig (or whatever noun you wish to insert) about same-sex relationships, whether within the priesthood or the laity. That is the reality of Anglicanism today. It is also the reality of practically any Christian denomination you care to mention. By 'reality' I mean that
there are highly virtuous individuals within the denomination who simply don't think this is of any importance. Neither of the people I'm talking about (who I am sure are simply representative) are remotely 'liberal'.

I greatly enjoyed meeting 'WT'.

All best,


8:31 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks John! It was great to meet with you and please do come by for the drink soon.

As far as your point on SSR I do not follow the argument you are making--or possibly do not see the validity of it. Might never makes right even if it is a democratic vote with a majority, which is surely not the case in the Catholic Faith once delivered to the saints on this issue. So, I don't see that your comment answers the question concerning what is true and what is not and how that truth is decided.

I think the reality is that the Anglican Communion, Roman Catholic Church, and the Eastern Orthodox have made it clear as to what is true about marriage and sex and it is within that context that we must remain faithful in passing on the teaching of the Church on marriage and sex. It is to the traditional teaching that I have made a vow to uphold and teach as a clergyman in the C of E as it is THE teaching of the Church of England. Right? Is not better that I remain in the integrity to which I have vowed before God and man on the day of my ordination as well as those who have also preceded me in the same vocation?

9:59 pm  
Anonymous john scholasticus said...


I'm not arguing that 'might is right'. I am pointing out that even in the most apparently 'orthodox contexts, such as yours, there are actually people who aren't 100% orthodox. Why is this worth pointing out? (1) because 'orthodox' people like to pretend that within 'orthodox' communities, it's all orthodox, but actually it isn't; (2) many people are actually selective about what they're orthodox about. Our friend TW, for example, is very orthodox re WO, unorthodox about SSRs. I think this practical diversity needs a little more acknowledgement; (3) enormously to your personal credit, you yourself knowingly remain in communion with such people and even with even more dreadful people such as myself. You and I, for example, have often knelt at the same altar rail to receive communion (sometimes even when it was dispensed by people in SSR relationships) and I imagine that when I and mine come to your church, which we will do, some time, you will give us communion. I think it would be a very good thing if Anglican bishops followed your excellent example.

9:05 pm  

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