Saturday, July 01, 2006

I've Been Buried in Work

I realize that I have not posted much of any great substance of late and that is due to my being buried in the Latin text of Andrewes' Responsio ad Bellarmini. I intend to have about 90 pages of it translated by the end of August and it is those 90 pages that are most crucial to my own research topic. I do plan on helping the academic community once I finish my PhD by setting out to finally get volume 8 from Andrewes' works translated into English. I must say that this project will be arduous as his Latin is some of the most difficult stuff I've ever run across and that goes for my tutor who agrees and looks over my translation. Therefore, I could use your prayers this summer so that I can get it all finished and hopefully by the end of summer I'll have another chapter completed as well. The chapter that I am presently working on is on Eucharistic Sacrifice in Andrewes' theology.

If you have ever read any of Andrewes' sermons, you know that even in English they are sometimes difficult to get the sense of what he is saying due to how he spins multiple phrases and ideas at the same time. Now put that into Latin and understand that he does the same thing. I do not wish to put a lot of my translation out here until I've submitted my thesis but I will put a paragraph here to show that Andrewes did not have a problem with Sacrifice of the Mass, but with two things that are a part of it that he understood were novel: 1) the Private Mass, and 2) transubstantiation.
Because the King knew that the sacrifice of the Mass was very ancient….therefore he had not dared to place it [the sacrifice of the Mass] amongst new things…but only the private Mass.

And, indeed from these things, which are now said to me (with regard to there being a commemoration of the sacrifice, or a Sacrifice of Commemoration), all this is said to be redundant which the Cardinal gorges himself on afterwards (but there is no need), about the antiquity of this expression. For there is nothing about this expression, O king! But he scarcely has goods for sale in taverns, (for now they are almost mouldy) which although no one may demand them, yet repeatedly he [the Cardinal] considers it necessary to seize an occasion to explain;

[251] if by chance the Cardinal may fall upon someone so idiotic, on whom he may be able to force it. And you do remove your Transubstantiation from the Mass; and it won’t be long before and there will not be an argument with us about the sacrifice. We affirm not reluctantly that there is a memorial of the sacrifice. We will never allow that your Christ made from bread is to be sacrificed. He knows that the expression sacrifice was appropriated by the Fathers, he does not place it among new things: but in the Mass of your Sacrifice, and he both dares and place, place I say, when he drives away Transubstantiation from its place, to which he places them where they belong, too hastily (I will say, irregularly) these things are pressed by him. It is not necessary for him to prophecy in this matter, he will assert that the private Mass was unknown by the Fathers, and he will assert it is not private, by which, of course, you worship bread there transubstantiated.
The real question for me is how Andrewes understood or did not understand transubstantiation. The charged rhetoric of the day makes it so difficult to get to the issues not least of which is also a result of our own further studies into Aquinas' explanation of transubstantiation. At the heart of the issue was a strong desire to make sure that the Church maintain that what we receive in the Eucharist is the Body and Blood of Christ in whole, humanity and divinity, and that is a worthy desire. What I have found so interesting is how Andrewes speaks of this presence in an objective way but denies so strongly the doctrine of transubstantiation--though I must say that he does not have a problem with the word trans. He goes on after the above quotation to speak of mutilation and the Sacrament of one kind and we get a fuller sense of what his issues were with the Mass. But what cannot be taken away from Andrewes was an objective presence within the elements (however that takes place is consigned to the Mystery of the Sacrament) and that the Eucharist is the Church's offering to God with the faithful expectation of having sins forgiven when received.

I have carefully read through Calvin's treatment of this in the Institutes this week and here lies a very significant difference. It is here and Andrewes' instrumentality of the Eucharist that has given me the resources to show my disagreements with Bryan Spinks' position of Andrewes falling in line with Calvin on these issues. This is found in Spinks' excellent work Sacraments, Ceremonies and the Stuart Divines. It has also given me the resource to deal with another contemporary scholar, Peter McCullough who concluded that Luther and Chemnitz are the theologians Andrewes is most indebted to. That I find puzzling given that Chemnitz' Examinis is only mentioned once in Andrewes' writings and that concerns an issue of intercessory prayers of the saints. My opening chapter, that has been reviewed by my historian friend, Dr. William Tighe, sets the stage for Andrewes as an ecumenist in his own day with regard to the Eucharist. Knowing the King James I was desiring to unite the European churches, especially not wanting to upset the Lutherans, one would think that Andrewes would be more keen to 'drop' names but there is nothing of it. (As a historical side, James I did want the union in order to help his trade explorations.) Therefore this gives me reason to question Andrewes' resources coming from the Continent at all. Rather Andrewes' entire point in his writings is to show that the English Church is Catholic with reference to the first five centuries and is happy to embrace and teach things such as the Sacrifice of the Mass, but not what he considers things as novel, such as: communion of one kind, private mass, transubstantiation, etc. That the Eucharistic offering is of value to the living, dead and those yet born, he affirms to Cardinal du Perron.

I did not intend this post to turn into what it has become but it did! These are some of the thoughts expressed in Andrewes' theology of the Eucharist. Much more will follow!


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